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Dear all, I went for visa interview with fake certificates, after interview VO gave me blue form to wait for documents process. Should I write back to them and confess that I have use fake documents? Because I have original certificate and friend dceceived me. Pls help.

Fake Certificates for F1 Visa

Well, you should have posted a comment like

My friend is asking me to use fake certificates for visa interview. Can I use them, will I run into trouble?

We would have advised to not to do that. Now, you made the mistake and you must decide what is the best course of action.  If US Embassy finds that your documents are fake, then you will have to  face the consequences. Your friend is not going to be affected. Seriously, if your friend asks you to commit a fraud, you just go with it? Its easy to give advise when you are not going to be affected. If you were to be caught, you can be banned to enter into US for life or several years.

Visa officers try hard to find fake documents and certificates. Some cases they cannot find and candidates go on to US to tell the story that they used fake documents.

Don’t even try to use fake bank statements or certificates, degree, mark sheets, ..etc. If you decide to use them, then you have to be ready to face the impacts (negative) that may come with it.

Over to you

What  advise would you give the person? Do you recommend the person to disclose to US embassy that they used fake certificates or wait to hear the results from the embassy.

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  • Guru Avinash

    try for african visa first lol…..

  • hampur saidi

    I am from chennai and want to use fake grade sheets, because I have no other way around it, I will do it ANYWAYS. I AM READY FOR ITS CONSEQUENCES AFTER GETTING 13 REJECTS ALL IN A BATCH.

  • Rajkamal

    Hi,

    Goddamn. . . This is NOT a mistake. Never. It's a BLUNDER. . . Yo messed it all up. . . Now, it's not wise to ask such suicidal questions in an open forum. Kick your friends a*s for deceiving you and stay calm. I don think there's anything pretty much you can do right now.

    GUYS, PLEASE NEVER EVER USE FRADULENT DOCUMENTS OR LIE TO THE VO. THEY JUST SEEM TO READ PEOPLE, MAINTAIN EYE CONTACT, SPEAK WITH CONFIDENCE AND GOOD LUCK.

  • sushanth

    hey what is the status of the person who submitted those documents ?is he facing the consequences or he got visa ?

  • FANAT1C

    Please don't bother coming to the US. We need honest hard working Indians here. Not fraudsters or morons.

    • sandeep singh

      sir,
      i want to work in america so can you help me ?

      • James

        If u want to work in the USA then can me at ngwajude29 at gmail dot com

  • pras

    Dear HSB

    Discussing such topics in public forums and blogspot is utterly wrong.

    Perhaps the discussion was to warn students to behave ethically.

    But asking public opinion is very bad as it will put many respondents and HSB in trouble.

    Students should be honest in their dealings.Good behaviour brings repute to self and one's country. There is nothing to lose if you do not get admission for higher studies in a particular country. There are other countries or other good options.

    ALL students must have honesty and ethics through out their lives

    regards

    pras

  • anubandh

    i think people should now stop blaming him, what he has done is already over. one should not be punished for sharing his problem though no doubt that these things should not be discussed publicly but fine friends that time has passed and he has already done it.

  • Tanmay

    No….Not at all..The arrow has left the bow…Better to keep quiet, because honesty(at this point of time) is of no use.

    • sandeep singh

      ma’am,
      honesty is still in present . i want to work in america by legal way so can you help me in this situation

  • Karan

    I would advice you to confess your mistake.

    If they do not recognize them as fake, then its OK. But if they do, you have to face serious consequences. Do not take chance. Tell them about what all has happened. They may understand it. You have not made up the documents anyway. You have just reproduced the originals. Confess your mistake and hope that they show sympathy.

  • Jual

    This guy is really an idiot, if he had made a fake marksheet or bank letter or affidavit…

    One of my friend made a fake certificate for social service and 4 other certis for his college. The certificate completely looked original, with no flaws. He attested those fake certi, showed them during visa interview and even got approved for a Visa.

    • Hari Krishna Veturi

      What point do you want to make here!

    • Sarah

      So, the visa officers do not verify attested documents????

      Sent on a phone using T9space.com

  • VK

    Whoever has written this comment, did you first go through this post written by HSB?

    "USCIS Using Social Networks to Find Fraud Activites"

    Whenever you apply for visa, USCIS start monitoring your activity over the web and comments like these will land you in trouble easily. It will take less than 5 minutes to judge one's true character by going through their social networking sites. So remember, don't ever post such comments in these blogs, because if USCIS finds these posts, because of you we readers and other HSB writers are also put on backfoot. Atleast you should have asked question in the way HSB has suggested you to do so.

  • khan

    hey dude…

    dont disclose ANY SUCH INFORMATION AS SUCH TO THE EMBASSY..

    BE PATIENT AND DON'T DISCUSS THESE ISSUES IN THE BLOGS..

  • jimmy

    I am a dentist in India and planing for MHA masters in health administration for fall 2011, and by reading the above comments it make me thing again and again shud i begin the procedure or not. I dont know the market for people like me in USA . will i get a job after completing the above mentioned degree or i l have worst thing to face?? I am on the verge of beginning the application process. Any suggestions are most welcome, a friend and student like YOU.

  • anubandh

    I think HSB has done totally correct by publishing this article bringing the issue of fake documents in lime light because if some1 has to go for fraud steps, he or she will go like in the above case, the person went with his friends advice but by writing this article HSB has showed that one gets in so much tension and terror after doing such fake deed. Also, various intelligent comments on this article will open the minds of those who are preparing for something fishy and fake for their Visa approval.

  • Rajmohan

    I do agree with sitaraman.the guy must have read lot of posts on the impact of using

    fake certificates for F1 visa.Despite having gone through those posts and having been advised by you lot of times he had taken the words of his deceitful friend.And also HSB,you should not have considered posting it as it has nothing to provide to students who really aspire to study in US through hard work.Hope such posts would be neglected in the future.

    • HSB

      Certainly. If you look at typical SOP it will start with quote, followed by why they decided to study engineering and how they got interested in field by observing something or someone. Then they talk about what they did in college and 1 para about why they wanted to study in USA. If you look at some of undergraduate essays submitted by students from US applying to B.S. will give you more perspective.

  • K SITARAMAN

    I feel that HSB should ignore such postings which themselves may be fake! If it is a real situation then as Indians we all should be ashamed to have suhc guys around in our country. HSB should devote time advising only honest and sincere students who want to go abroad taking the right route. I will go a step further and request you to delete such postings from your website as it is likely to tarnish your image which you built assiduously. And let us remember that it will spoil the image of our country too which is a greater risk considering the future of sincere and honest students!

    • Arun

      Well said SITARAMAN.Agree 100%.HSB should not answer such
      queries and nor do discuss these things in your blog.It will only
      tarnish HSB image.

  • manju

    y u went with that opinion? dont u use ur own deicisions?

  • Joyce

    Hallo guys,

    Your comments are good but I am totally agreeing with Mr. H. Yes these are just suppotive documents and whether or not you have them you might end up getting a visa. Like I remember when I visited the US embassy in Nairobi sometimes back, a student had a big file of documents whereas there was another with with just an envelope…..but you know what? The guy with the envolope was granted a visa and the other with a file was denied. What I can just say is that it does not matter the quantity of documents you have but how your presentation takes place. so the guy who had the fake documents, this is a very sensitive issue but you decided to take the advise from your friend so I would advise you not to self diclose yourself let things run as they are you never know of the outcome but in the future please dont try this game it might make you end up in jail for fraudulent, so sit tigh and let things be…..keep your fingers crossed and pray for the best. Yes people do go the the US with fake documents but that is risk at very high levels. So whatever the outcome whether good or bad, you have learnt your lesson.

    I can just wish you all the best.

    Joyce.

  • geethaprasad

    why be that desperate that you submit fake documents? why put your own reputation in jeopardy and why do you have to ruin the country's reputation? besides, the hardworking, brilliant students who have a clean record end up paying a price when other students submit fake documents. before doing something like this, one has to keep in mind that his or her own country does have opportunities and he or she only has to sit down and evaluate them and think of the next course of action.

  • Anubandh

    or you can do one more thing, as embassies dont keep a record of the documents, if you have time and option in your study career, then you can plan to apply to US after some years

  • Anubandh

    i only want to say to this guy that its not so easy escaping the authorities as even after the entry in US they may find out such fraud some time, because bad times never knock at the door first and then if you are in US, u will be in big trouble. but dont think that this is the end of life, worst to worst is that u will have to alter your future plans may be from US to some other qualitative country. But keep in mind not to repeat such mistakes again. always consult some mature people, take help from websites and blogs but these are not so small issues to consult with some immature friend and follow it up.

  • mini

    Mr Vignesh i think everyone has the right to know what exactly fake documents are.Becoz there were ppl who thought the documents are real which turned out to be fake.So if u knw the answer please let ppl know.Or else it is advisable not to give any comments as such.This is a website where ppl who professional ppl and educated ppl come to know new things and know what is happening all over the world.If uwanna go to bihar go and get 1 and dont give such stupid inf here.!

    • Vignesh

      Ms Mini, Why are you fighting with me ? What do you want actually ? First learn English properly before you judge others and call others stupid. The most Stupid person who has ever joined or posted comment on this blog is YOU !! You are such an Idiot that you don’t even know what is a Fake Certificate ? I never said that I wanna go to Bihar and get a fake certificate, instead I said that people mostly get it from Bihar. By the way, why would I get a fake certificate when I have genuine certificate + knowledge + job with me ? YOU ARE THE MOST NITWIT SWAGGERING BRAGGART !!

      P.S.: This is not a news website ( or channel ) for people to know new things and whatever is going on all over the world. This is not CNN !!

  • http://twitter.com/deepakvenkat Deepak

    I think this is not the first time a person is asking what to do after committing a fraud. well the best thing for the person to do is to make sure he has alternate arrangements which does not involve US so that this is not the end of the road for him. but other wise a self disclosure will do him/her no good. whether the person discloses or whether the vo finds i think the consequences would be the same. so sit tight and let things take their course but make sure you understand that fraudulent ways never justify the end.

  • mini

    what does fake documents mean???i mean do they create their own documents or they go to some consultancy for that? hwo would they even knw that they r fake?suppose they r some fake bank documents do they enquire all that from the bank??

    • Vignesh

      Do u want 1 ?

      You can get it from Bihar. It costs 5 Lakhs for 1 Professional degree.

      Later you should face the consequences.

      • mini

        And FYI i dont need 1 and im in USA and im a citizen of usa.So please ADMIN i request u not to encourage such ppl coz first thing they odnt give proper inf and moreover spoil the spirit in most of the students who are in help.

        • Anubandh

          mini, an Embassy is a very powerful authority and they get all powers and full co-operation from the related country to find the information that they want like the authenticity of the documents etc. they can also very easily find regarding any property that the person or his or her family members are possessing. So finding out the fact of fake documents is not at all a big deal for them.

          • mini

            Anubandh ,Yes ur totally true…i totally accept.Ppl should know what is happening.That is y i brought up the topic.thanks for that.

        • Vignesh

          When you don't need any, then what are you doing here ? what was the need to post your stupid comment ? Nobody cares for who you are or where you are unless until you are President of US. If you're in US and a citizen of US, then why the hell are you boasting about yourself ? You kinda chicks get hooked up and get the citizenship and that's not a big deal. By the way, US citizens don't post comments on these kinds of blogs,that itself shows that you're a fool !

        • Vignesh

          FYI I'm also in US !

      • mini

        Mr Vignesh i think everyone has the right to know what exactly fake documents are.Becoz there were ppl who thought the documents are real which turned out to be fake.So if u knw the answer please let ppl know.Or else it is advisable not to give any comments as such.This is a website where ppl who professional ppl and educated ppl come to know new things and know what is happening all over the world.If uwanna go to bihar go and get 1 and dont give such stupid inf here.!

        • Vignesh

          Ms Mini, Why are you fighting with me ? What do you want actually ? First learn English properly before you judge others and call others stupid. The most Stupid person who has ever joined or posted comment on this blog is YOU !! You are such an Idiot that you don't even know what is a Fake Certificate ? I never said that I wanna go to Bihar and get a fake certificate, instead I said that people mostly get it from Bihar. By the way, why would I get a fake certificate when I have genuine certificate + knowledge + job with me ? YOU ARE THE MOST NITWIT SWAGGERING BRAGGART !!

          P.S.: This is not a news website ( or channel ) for people to know new things and whatever is going on all over the world. This is not CNN !!

    • N

      Fake document is nothing but it is additional documents which are supportive to get visa. Please be confidient when you are in front of embassy person…Some guys hesitate to speak English even they passed any English test but they hesitate because in actual they cannot understand what has been asked and what they have to answer then visa gets rejected or goes under verification…Those person are just CLERICAL KNOW HOW person who interviews YOU….Please be SIMPLE & TECHNICAL always…JUST LISTEN CAREFULlY what they are actually asking you…Be prompt and be exact of question…Thats it..Your answer should related to your resume and future always..there should not be any GAP. So be careful on this…

      Thanks
      H

      • mini

        Thanks Mr N. it was very professional of u to let ppl know what exactly they are and not just sit and nag around like few ppl ,about the post in this blog.!! Iappreciate it!!

  • Ajyuk

    The damage has been already done. There is no point in trying to repair it as the US Embassy will have strict Rules & Policies to how to deal fraudulency.
    I would suggest him not to disclose that the certificates are fake. If he does that, he has to throw his US dreams in the dustbin. Just hope and pray to god that everything goes smooth. Atleast if he had asked for guidance before doing this, he could have got some sort of help. No its not in our hand.
    But such wrong doings are absolutely unacceptable. Is this the way to fulfil your dream? There are millions of people arduously working to attain their goals.

  • Anonymous

    Hey all I have been refused for UK visa for Fake documents and They have banned for ten years its a tourist visa and It is rejected for my father and automatically rejected and banned for UK … Will This affect my US entry ???? Please advice as such

  • boman

    The damage has already been done.The US embassy can either find out and punish you,or don’t find out and you get your visa.But if you report you will definitely not get your visa,it could be a background check they are doing now,maybe your name matched someone on their hit-list and not document related.My advise just wait and hear from them.

  • jagannath

    sir ..i want to go to australia for diploma in information technology.i got ielts 5.5 band.can i get PR after completion of this course…& is it a right to go australia for diploma………plz help me

  • N

    Nothing will happen and do not send any confess letter to them…Because they are sitting over there to reject application not checking documents of yours…They judge the person on your lips movement and body action but not document at all. So, please do not do this mistake otherwise you won't be able to file any US Visa along or other countries visa….Jo kar diya just stick on it….I used fake document to go US, UK, Singapore, Australia…

    BE CONFIDIENT ON YOUR WORDS…JUST THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT…NOTHING ELSE….

    Thanks

    Hemant

  • Vignesh

    I agree with PRATEEK and I would like to say the same thing. Admin please don't allow future messages of this kind. These kinds of messages will divert and demotivate good students and also spoil the bad students. Please stop all these types of messages entering in your website and delete them during moderation and don't allow them to show up on the blog posts!!!

    • HSB

      Vignesh – Messages like this will create awareness that there are students who try to game the system and willing to commit fraudulent activities. As you know we don;t encourage any such practices, but this comment was posted just to create awareness, so others will think twice before doing fraud activities.

      • Vignesh

        I told not to include so that people like mini don't ask Questions on fake documents. Now answer mini and tell her " how to create fake documents " and then tell her " how no to do it ". Thanks.

        • Vignesh

          " how not to do it "

  • Vignesh

    You are going to land in Hell as it is your life and why did you listen to your friend who deceived you? Whose certificates did you use to apply for ? Was it your application ? If it was your application, then how come you did not use your own Original Certificates ? I would advise you to go and ask the same friend who deceived you. HSB is one of the good websites for students aspiring education abroad. When you did not ask HSB about your fraud before you committed it, now why are you asking help in HSB. Whatever HSB or any students here tell you, finally you will land in trouble. That is for sure. You will repent soon.

  • avinash

    Hi,

    this is Avinash i am having some doubts but i don't know how to post it. Can you help me?

  • Musoni

    You have to wait,may be they will not find out, you will be called , take with u original documents, u'll explain yourself after already knowing you are caught

  • KEN

    I guess u should tell them the truth and wait for the consequences it could be good it could be bad.

    Hey u will never know what if they have already found out.

  • Hari Krishna Veturi

    Hey! Don't disclose them right now! If you do, and if they didn't find any mistake while checking out your docs, then it will be a real problem… Consequences later will be thought of!

  • ijeoma

    I suggest you wait to hear from them first before taking any. Further action…because you could do something noww and it would further complicate issues..but either way just be prepared to face whateva consequence comes out of it..

  • vis

    well, maybe u should quit ur plan to study in us and go to other country for study, tats the safest option u hav, or else either way u'll get caught, if u dont get caught now, while pursuing ur study, this fear will be ter in ur mind…so go to some other country.

  • Rohit Sinha

    Very Wrong Approach dude!!! Never take such life changing decisions on the basis of lies and fake and deceit. It will never pay off!!!

    Now wait and watch the consequence ! I dont think you have any better option

  • prateek

    this guy is a fool…. don't allow and answer such posts admin.. this affects your reputation …

    • AM

      Hey I think you are a fool or person who cannot control his jelous feeling after getting rejected and you donot deserve to go any where out of India. You are endengering the students who are applying for the studies and even the countrie's and state's Name and reputation where is the patriotism now don't you even think about that your are a b**sh** guy.