Following Comment was posted by Ketan for the post below. I just feel like banging my head on the door. Yes, there are frustrated people like Ketan who sends Message to Visa officers.

Don’t Blame Visa Officer for US Visa Rejection – The statement is completely false.

I understand that judgement in 1 min is very difficult however partiality and mentality of VO can be judged very easily. I’m sharing my personal experience….

I got rejection 3 times

1st time VO gave me reason

Your interview is good but unfortunately this time I cannot grant you VISA. No specific reasons he mentioned….

2nd Time: VO accepted my VISA First and then Rejected…
After Rejection

I told: Sir I respect your decision but please let me know why my VISA is rejected after accepting….

VO: Ahhh….Welll….Hmm…Mr Ketan….Unfortunately this time also I am unable to grant you the VISA….
Me: Y
VO: Well….Here is of no doubt that your interview is perfect…but unfortunately I am bound to follow the rules and regulations as per US norms which all the VO’s are bound to follow…..If personally I would be there then I can grant you the visa as per your todays performance…but Sorry…..I can’t grant…Better Luck Next Time……

3rd Time:

VO: Mr Ketan, as I see your previous records….
You applied frequently for VISA
You have not changed your previous university and program. So Unfortunately I cannot grant this time….

But Friends….My VISA interview was very perfect all the three times…..But I noticed every time… VO gave VISA to all the girls. Not even a single girl was rejected.

A Message to Visa Officers

You people are very having proud and you think you are the best in the world. This is completely ridiculous and false. But remember one thing, we Indians have performed dramatically outstanding in every sector that your president Mr Obama is compelled to think about it. He stated, Beware of Indians otherwise they will occupy your jobs….So you people now recognize who is the best.

If you cannot grant the US Visa then Go To Hell…..We Indians are not completely relying upon you. We people have performed and gave outstanding results that Entire world is inviting us for our inventions.

A Message To All My Friends

Please support me If you think I am right. If one’s not getting VISA….It doesn’t mean The Journey’s Over… But Its a Challenge. They should be realized for what they did to every student. Friends do something very special that even those people have to take appointment from us.

*****

Message to You

  • You are the one who is at door step of US consulates asking for Visa.
  • Again read the 2 points in the  post for which you posted the above comments.
  • Your view of perfect interview is not same as Visa officers view and you feel you are always right.
  • What kind of message is that to visa officers? Hope you are not being serious

“Indians are not completely relying upon you.”

Then why are you so desperate to get visa to USA? Plus, you words say, we are still relying on you.

As Visa officer said during your third interview. Nothing has changed from last 2 interviews. Do you expect to get visa?

And you call that as perfect interview?

I know you are frustrated with 3 rejections. But, that’s what destined to happen to you. Life is a challenge. Use this frustration to do fuel creative work. It’s of no use in sending big messages to visa officers. They are doing their job.

 

Comments

  1. it is unfortunate for you that you went to the first attempt and you didn’t think of making anything change on your profile and you went arrogantly to the subsequent attempts thinking you were the perfect candidate for the visa. but you should realized your record for the first attempt is kept there. so the other VO would a cogent reason to grant you a visa. you said most women were granted visa ,there is an adage that says ” educate a woman is educating a whole nation” you should know in the developing countries women are more discriminated. therefore if even it is or not US’s policy to grand more visas to women in our part of world. it is her right?. so what?? blasting the VO would not change your status , why don t you change your profile and try again! remenber in life perseverance and patience are the key to success!!!!!

  2. Hey guys,
    I think rejecting visa without telling any reason is not good at all.But as far as i know the decisions made by VO in 2nd ,3rd…is not wrong at all.They cant overwrite the decisons made during the first interview without any specific reason. If they find change in the documents and convincing one,they grant visa. If nothing is changed in 2nd 3rd…..also, the result ll be REJECTED!!!!
    I am also the 3 times victim of rejection . And I was also not told the reason of rejection in 1st attempt.But still I do have a hope that I ll be grant US visa one day.and Im sure about that..

  3. guys,i got admission to do my MA at Liberty University in US but unfortunately,the VO refused me da visa without any tangible reason. the school”s requirement was proficiency in english which i satisfied. the v o asked of my GRE but i told him it wasn”t a requiremt by Liberty. my course begins in january. can i apply for the visa again? what changes can i make in my documents? My sponsor was my guardian,shd he have been rather family? PS HELP!!!

  4. Dear friend i know that ur too frustrated hearing the consoling words from our dear friends but never loose ur hope dude i think u shd try once or twice more & i think ull definitely move out of this situation with last smile on ur face buddy gud nite guys…….

  5. visa consulates are not knocking on any body’s doors saying please come and apply for visa
    so this computation of millions of dollars being earned by embassies is frivolous.
    you apply with a purpose-you have credentials-your papers are in order-you will get a visa.
    we get desparate to go and by hook or by crook
    so remain genuine and first introspect and then suspect

  6. I have noticed a trend on this website where people immediately start defending VOs. There is no doubt they are free to make the decision and more often than not they probably get it right. But I think it is equally important to listen to the counter arguments. There is also no doubt their approach to granting someone a visa is arrogant right from the start of the process. If you ever want to know how it feels to be treated like a criminal just schedule a visa interview with the US consulate. If only our government was more assertive in dealing with powerful countries like America at a foreign policy level, unfortunately only when a minister is insulted for being frisked at the airport does our government lodge any protest.

  7. if you are really serious about the U.S visa and want to apply again. Changed the university and select the university according to U.S. news and world report ranking. think about kansas state university its a good university you may get a visa for it. ok.

  8. Even i am a person who got rejected twice by v.o i got tensed like anything when i stepped out of the embassy. I told to my dad that “they are thinking they are the big shots in the world one fine day they will meet their failure”. These words come out due to the tension but practically the rules of U.S visa is terrible have to pay Rs:7000 and just a 1 minute interview if we got rejected they wont even say the reason for that according to rules.
    But u dependent on them so only u go to their country for studies.
    Finally never give up your hopes try for some other country i am too trying for Canada.
    These 3 failure will make u to do thousands of success in your life.

    • correct murali every dog has its own day time will come they will depend on us (indians) if we were not in usa 70 % of us economy will be declined because all parttimes and regular works are done by indians more over all students think that usa is only developed country …………………………….. Canada is the another big shot in future ….. still now canada is maintaining good economy and also offering Pr option ……………..see it will be true

  9. Hi ketan, i understand your frustation after getting rejected and that too 3 times. But let me tell you, its none of your fault and also none of visa officers. They are well trained to take interviews. I think the letter you sent to the visa officers is ridiculous. The second sentence of your letter applies to your thinking. Its we who want their help and i respect what you said that they should seek our appointment but this can happen only with their help. So you must not lose hopes and must try to other universities. Hoping to listen to you about your admissions soon.

  10. I am a masters student of university of Hull , uk and studying Bio-medical engineering and I have noticed that the Indian and also chinese brains are comparatively better than others . I have topped in first semester . Everyone congratulated me and they though I am an outstanding student . But once , when I was in standard 12 , I scored 22 out of 200 in mathematics (test exam) and I was unsuccesful even in 12 th examination . But the transformation is due to my NEVER GIVE UP attitude and laborious performance .

    Mr. Ketan , this is not the aim to express my credentials to you , I would like to tell you that this is not the end of life… Your luck does not allow you to get the visa , but do not loose your patience and you should try to another country like germany , australia and others. If you have the will for doing something , you can win .

  11. Beauty of this ongoing debate is that, All those who have got Visa will support the proposal that VOs are trained properly for what they are doing and all those who have got rejection will support that they are not good enough in judging the applicants. Yet no one is 100% sure what really happens up there . :)

  12. tanx a lot Ketan, lets not hype them they just sit there and think we’re inferior and express themselves in every unreasonable angle. a v.o told me she cared less about my future after I requested for an explanation for the rejection me that was worst than the rejection. i hope they get all the messages from all the great students they’ve been rejecting disrespectfully.

  13. Watever happens is for a reason. I think its only wise to find out from those who might know why ur visa was rejected despite ur qualification. As for the schools admitting students, they are more interested in d mind to be developed, whereas the issuing officers ar after all; reason to study and post completion of study too. Its their responsibility for their country. Find out more, retry. All d best

  14. I support you 100%.. Even I have faced this same twice and daam those guys don’t even give and answers and just reject us .. I think they have started making it a money business now-a-days…

    • hey common my friend do not say that because those guys are just doing but their job,it is not a must that everybody MUST go to US please if you are rejected a Visa just keep on praying to God rather than insulting their jobs.I believe strongly that if you put your probs to the Lord he will give u Visa so may be it was not your appointed time my friend.

      take care and kep on trying while praying………………

  15. Dont be So proud in writing against the Visa officer, They are just following certain rules and regulations . The fact you wrote that

    “You people are very having proud and you think you are the best in the world. This is completely ridiculous and false. But remember one thing, we Indians have performed dramatically outstanding in every sector that your president Mr Obama is compelled to think about it. He stated, Beware of Indians otherwise they will occupy your jobs….So you people now recognize who is the best.”

    I felt miserable after having read this. This is a ridiclous statement. All out of sheer anger .
    No American would want such kind of people in their Country. After America is for the Americans not just Indians.

    I wouldnt like the fact thousands of Americans coming to India and occupying our positions. Think of that too.

    And their is certian rules and regulations to follow in order to gain visa. Plenty of interview articles are given here. Please go throught it.

  16. Hey Ketan!
    I don’t want to say but you are lucky you didn’t get the visa for studies!!
    Mark my words among the 1,00,000 students from India only 5-8% are happy remaining are wondering why the hell we have applied for the VISA and traveled to USA!
    India is the great and the best place to stay,learn and earn!!

    • Man, u r true ,im staying from last 2 months , i faced really demoralizing situations and felt very bad. . . But above all the odds you have to know one thing. . the oppurtunities here are relentless,
      every person here can become a billionaire from scratch,technology availible is never imazined u can shape your future. who knows one day you can be the embassedor of this tranforming technology to take it to india, u learn here here to grow up individually, your tend to increase your communication with your fellows, u learn to stand on your own legs, being here after suding may get u money but taking the same tech and knowledge to our home country India this revolutionalize our future and livies. you can do the same thing being in india but im sure you can not learn the whole life there. . almost every individual here learns the above this ,i want to be one to transform india if any body have the same you should definitly destined here . any comments feel free to respond. bye guys

  17. Ketan,
    I can really empathize with you. This situation is totally unfair. The least that you could have been provided with is the reason for rejection. Please dont give up. Keep trying . This is not the end of the journey. 5 years down the line you would realise that whatever happens, happens for the best. All the best.

  18. Dear Friends…. I knew I am depressed with 3 Rejections…..
    I am sharing my interview questions and my answers with you……Then you decide whether my above message to VO are not genuine? Still I thanks to all friends for their motivation and encouraging me.

    Me: Good Morning Sir (With a Smile)
    VO: Good Morning

    VO: Which University?
    Me: I have opted North Eastern University for MS in Drug Regulatory Affairs program.

    VO: Why this university?
    Me: This university is offering me an excellent program in the field of DRA. The curriculum is the perfect blend of theory and practice which mainly emphasis on practical training along with theoretical part. The curriculum has the subjects which are of my interest and related to pharmaceuticals in which I have a Bachelors. Moreover the reputation and recognition of NEU is outstanding in my field.

    VO: How long are you going to stay in US?
    Me: Until the completion of my course that is XXX yrs

    VO: Why USA and not India?
    Me: Indian Universities are offering only part time and certain diploma courses in DRA however US university is offering full time and specialized course in my respective field. That’s why I wish to pursue my masters from USA.

    VO: How many universities did you apply for and how many admits?
    Me: I have applied in 5 Univ out of which I got 4 admits

    VO: Have you ever been to US?
    Me: No Sir

    VO: First Accepted my passport, kept in envelop, sealed and put into acceptance column….
    Later on he cross checked something on computer….opened the sealed envelop…and returned back my passport without mentioning any reason

    ME: Sir, I respect your decision but please can you tell me the exact reason that why my visa is rejected after it has been accepted….

    VO: Ahhh….Welll….Hmm…Mr Ketan….Unfortunately this time also I am unable to grant you the VISA….
    Me: Y
    VO: Well….Here is of no doubt that your interview is perfect…but unfortunately I am bound to follow the rules and regulations as per US norms which all the VO’s are bound to follow…..If personally I would be there then I can grant you the visa as per your todays performance…but Sorry…..I can’t grant…Better Luck Next Time……

    • Ketan – Now, you posted your F1 interview experience. I have 2 questions for you.

      1) Did you apply through education consultant?
      2) Is your GRE score between 90o to 1100?

      • Hello Sir,i am chaitanya. My visa got rejected for FALL 2011 twice (JUNE 21 and AUG 4) for State University of New York Institute of Technology (SUNYIT) TELECOM dept at Utica NY.i applied to CSUN,CSULB UTSA and SUNYIT and i have admits from CSUN SUYIT and UTSA.I defered my admission to SPRING 2012 and now i am getting ready to attend my third visa interview in NOV second week.Now i only have SUNYIT I20 and other two i20′S are awaited.So,kindly help me with this.What if VO asks me “WHAT CHANGES DID U MAKE COMPARED TO UR LAST INTERVIEW”? Should i change the university? UTSA need 100 TOEFL and i have only 88.So i think my second option will be California State University Northridge (CSUN) EE dept. So should i attend the third time interview with the same SUNYIT univ or should i change my univ to CSUN. Which will increase chances for my VISA APPROVAL .Please SIR help me with your valuable suggestions.Please FRIENDS help me with your valuable suggestions and advices. MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE.

        • hi bro ,

          Please go for California sate university

          it is top uni nd u surely get visa ..

          This tym u get visa

          get bro rock dis tym am back of u

      • Hello Sir,i am chaitanya. My visa got rejected for FALL 2011 twice (JUNE 21 and AUG 4) for State University of New York Institute of Technology (SUNYIT) TELECOM dept at Utica NY.i applied to CSUN,CSULB UTSA and SUNYIT and i have admits from CSUN SUYIT and UTSA.I defered my admission to SPRING 2012 and now i am getting ready to attend my third visa interview in NOV second week.Now i only have SUNYIT I20 and other two i20?S are awaited.So,kindly help me with this.What if VO asks me “WHAT CHANGES DID U MAKE COMPARED TO UR LAST INTERVIEW”? Should i change the university? UTSA need 100 TOEFL and i have only 88.So i think my second option will be California State University Northridge (CSUN) EE dept. So should i attend the third time interview with the same SUNYIT univ or should i change my univ to CSUN. Which will increase chances for my VISA APPROVAL .Please SIR help me with your valuable suggestions.Please FRIENDS help me with your valuable suggestions and advices. MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE.

        • this time i suggest u to go with CSUN ……..if Vo asks U why did u change the univ???????

          U say that i have also applied for SUNYIT but it is under departmental review…….and the second best college after SUNYIT is CSUN.
          DONT say routine & boring answers ……..if the VO asks u why this college???????
          A: then u say my favourite subject is power systems,………… (any one) and say that the core courses in csun are PS,…..,……….

          • hello sir,i am Anju and i completed my 2rd yr nursing and as a part of our contract between our college and Penn State University(U.S.A),we can pursue our 3rd and 4th year of nursing there in US,if we have good IELTS score.
            But i have my sister who is working in US,who also holds an US citizenship. She has sponsored me last year,which is still under process.(it might take 10-11yrs for sibblings 2 get the sponsorship,as per US norms) Many say that there are chances of my student visa to get rejected,pls help me out with this..pls give ur valuable suggestions on this behalf. how am i supposed 2 answer during the interview session?

      • hi hsb,
        I need some sort of help from your side.I read many posts regarding gre scores and all.
        Now its my turn.I took my gre b4 a month and Im now interested to proceed further.
        I will have my score between 1000-1120.I have applied to 4 universities at the end of the exam.but along with these scores,I have 3+yrs of experience in the software development which may or may not help me secure admission.but I dont know any means to convey this information to the universities I have applied for.so plz let me know regarding this as well.I just wanted to ask u that ,when these universities will revert back to me?
        if they did not accept my scores then did they reply me like that?
        your immediate response and any further help to take me successfully to the good us institution will be highly appreciated.
        thanks for your regular posts which are always useful for me when we Im with my friends, discuss regarding the gre.this is the only source of info I know.
        thanks.

      • Hello HSB Sir,i am chaitanya. My visa got rejected for FALL 2011 twice (JUNE 21 and AUG 4) for State University of New York Institute of Technology (SUNYIT) TELECOM dept at Utica NY.i applied to CSUN,CSULB UTSA and SUNYIT and i have admits from CSUN SUYIT and UTSA.I defered my admission to SPRING 2012 and now i am getting ready to attend my third visa interview in NOV second week.Now i only have SUNYIT I20 and other two i20?S are awaited.So,kindly help me with this.What if VO asks me “WHAT CHANGES DID U MAKE COMPARED TO UR LAST INTERVIEW”? Should i change the university? UTSA need 100 TOEFL and i have only 88.So i think my second option will be California State University Northridge (CSUN) EE dept. So should i attend the third time interview with the same SUNYIT univ or should i change my univ to CSUN. Which will increase chances for my VISA APPROVAL .Please SIR help me with your valuable suggestions.Please FRIENDS help me with your valuable suggestions and advices. MANY THANKS IN ADVANCE.

      • nannna north eastren university is only toefl accepting university for regulatory affairs and most of visa officers thinking that these fellows are writing there toefl through back door so thats the reason he rejects and regultory affairs is prog which has high scope of setttling in usa this is also reason for rejection thats why he asked how many yours you are going to stay and regulatory affairs has job oppurtunities more only in usa if you have applied to another course like chemistry/ pharmacology/ industrial pharmacy he thinks that the applicant would return to his home town
        thats the criminal logic brain of usa vo

        • and vo thinks that girls will come back to india for their marriage and boys will not come to india and they will make green card and bring their wife from india consider this reason also

      • hello HSB gre is not criteria kk us vo wants candidate to leave usa after completion of his studies and his financial background and his attitude way of thinking ie he wants to sttle in us a or he will come back to india and dont show put up that you are smart student if we show he thinks to play with the candidate be like a simple average student and never keep expectations
        on usa visa

    • HIIIIIIIII ketan

      srry to hear buddy that ur visa has been rejected………

      seeing ur visa interview i can say that there is no reason to reject you…….simply unneccassarily they rejected u…….

      apply for canada u have to take IELTS…….thats it u will get admission within in 1week if u have minimum of 6.5 to 7 in IELTS and canada visa success rate is 95%……so better go for canada

      • hiiiiiiiii ketan

        one more thing i would like to add is that US visa success rate for pharmacy,Bio-tech,Electrical streams are not that good ……success rate is very lowww

  19. even i got rejected thrice . even i am very much disappointed with the result of my visa interviews.

    now i am working and i am planning to go to germany.

  20. Dear friend

    i can understand how u feel because i was rejected twice then i deferred my admission for spring.i think the whole system is responsible for this because a lot of guys tries unfair means to get there and once there get indulge in work,only 3 out of 10 returns and recently the immigration traffic from india has jumped up.which make them a bit skeptical about the Indian student last year i came to know they rejected around 60% of visa application ,they said a lot of unqualified people trying to enter into US.So eventually a lot of fair student loses their chance. and once rejected really the odds are very thin to get visa with same college and situation as they do not want to challenge the decision made by previous interviewer. one really feel shattered after investing so much money ,time everything seems so unfair. I believe this thing will change with time,and u better start applying in other country as the tuition fee is supposed to shoot up in US and country like UK,Canada ,Germany also have decent university. I agree no one rely on US or some X country if u have the talent and desire u gonna work it out.

    • Dear Sir:

      Although I am a US citizen, you have my sincere empathy. I am surprised that the females received visas, as they are more likely to marry and remain in the US after their studies. If there was some advice I would provide it. I have seen individuals receive visitor’s visas and wonder how and then see hard working parents denied after they have provided all required information. I can just wish you the best of luck with the F-1 visa. Did you meet the university’s financial needs request?

  21. very well said ketan they must mention the reason atleast and we have to uplift our country so that they should come to us to do jobs and so on.. but to do this our so called politicians should stop in indulging courruption scams and invest that money in our country..

  22. HSB sir,
    Is it necessary to mail professors(I mean get acquainted)with them if one goes for a MS program??

  23. I can understand the candidate’s feelings.. He’s struggled so much for the past one yr going through the application process, only to find that he was to be denied visa for unknown reasons. The VO’s should atleast have mentioned a reason to him.. It’s so sad to see them being like this. It’s ok to have your frustration let out. That is far better than having it bog you down into depression. I’m sure you’ll be successful in life. As HSB said, let that frustration bring out the best in you. All the best!

  24. dont know…been hearng such incredible refusal stories. all i can stay is hang on tight n dont give up, dont gte frusrated. u will get in :)

  25. The amount of time, effort and money involved is horrendous. Not every candidate is an immigrant and if they can’t provide visa, it’s noble and fair to ask for refund. It’s very hard to believe that all that money is “processing fee”. In my opinion, there are at least 500 F1 candidates going in per consulate per day. 500x7000x5x52 is 910 Million (a huge amount indeed :) !). And there are more than one consulate per country. So there is an enormous amount of money generated from F1 visa application alone. Imagine what would be the money generated from all types of visas (You see where I am going with this :D). If there is a particular reason for rejection then they have to say, “You are rejected because of XYZ reason”. Instead of plainly saying, “Not qualified under Section 214(b)”, if they say “why exactly” the candidate does not qualify under the said section, it will be a fair game. If it is something we can correct, we can do that and reapply. If it’s something that cannot be corrected, then we can get on with Plan B or C or whatever. Here the candidate is kept in complete darkness. The “nothing has changed” factor is also not acceptable. If you are admitted to a university, you go to that university to study. Changing university every time the visa is rejected is ridiculous. No one can assess a person within 3 minutes. That’s beyond belief! No one is that sharp! If they are, then they should be hired to solve most of the unsolved criminal cases in the world!

    • 1. How can you say there are 500 applicants/day?
      2. Visa applicants are not queuing up for interview at all times throughout the year, just because admissions do not take place throughout the year (at a majority of institutions).

      • Read the comment properly sir. It’s only an assumption. Even if you put 50 applicants/day also it would still be a huge amount. And I have clearly mentioned that we should consider other types of visas too. Not just F1. Can you seriously deny the fact that a huge amount of money is generated from this? There are consulates around the world. Just extrapolate the numbers and see. It’s a multi-million dollar business. :)

  26. Buddy its your hardluck that you didnt get the visa. Its worst to see dreams shattered but its not the end of the world my friend. However USA is not the end of the world….. why dont u try Germany?UK? they also of world class engineering and management inst. Why dont u wanna go to Oxford or Cambridge but just Harvard….??? If u got the talent, u got the whole world.. US is not the world, and it doesnt mean that u willbe finished if u dont go to US…
    @Mr.HSB-If he went to US office it doesnt mean he is desperate… he isnt desperate for USA , he is desperate to get his dreams realised……he is just venting out his frustration so just chill… I also wanted to go to US, but realising my budget, I am opting for UK and also got admission in Univ of Manchester (#18 acc to QS n #26 acc to THE in engg n tech worldwide)…..And I am confident that if I have the talent US companies will themselves invite me ….

    DONT LOSE HEART MY FRIEND…Rock On

  27. Agree with the comments followed on “Message to You” ….. There’s no point in showing frustration and sending emails to officers, if someone is not so much interested then would’ve never tried for the third time, Granted never give up attitude for the second. Well as said, its all the destiny. I got a reject for the first time and the second time my interview was hardly for a minute, didn’t even get a chance to impress with my explanation on why US? Got an approval, landed here. I just changed my Univ for the second time i applied. In my case, officers were for sure not convinced with the Univ i applied for the first time and later may be because i changed might have given me some open opportunity. Anyways, good luck for your future.

    • is northeastern university, boston not good …??? it comes in top 100 (#rank 62). what are you talking about sir…….?

  28. whatever you say, Some visa officer think that they are tooooo smart and trained to judge people in just two questions……come on……….this is ridiculous………we are not criminals …….we are genuine students asking them for VISAs…..they dont respect time and money a genuine student has devoted for one year…………….
    the universities check evrything before issuing i-20s. if reputed universities have approved us the admission and we have the i20 from them then who the hell they are to refuse our visas and play with the future of the students……..

    • Similar to how you are trained to be an engineer (assuming you are engineer), they are trained to deal with people attending visa interview. My classmate, who lived in LA had a neighbor. One day they were surprized to see him understand what my friends were talking in Tamil. Apparently he was visa officer in Chennai consulate and he learned Tamil.

      Do you think universities (most) check if bank statement balance was deposited few days back and money is still in the account or they check of LOR was written by you?

      Reputed university doesn’t have fraud detection division and they don’t live in India to understand how system works. Have you seen the wiki leaks cable from India. US consulate know so much about what kind of fraud students commit to get into USA. Some genuine student get stuck in that.

      • I had everything genuine…….I got a bank loan from PNB…………….all documents were genuine……..moreover, the officer didnt even look at my documents………….
        I am just a victim of bad luck………….

        they are not trained enough……… believe me……

        you know first two times, they didnt bothered me to tell the reason of refusal…….third time visa officer said,”the previous officers and e also think that I will not finish up my school.”
        not finishing up the school is not possible as the student will fall out of status by not completing its credits……and i am a studious guy who love to work hard and i worked hard to get through all this us admission process……..

        • Its understandable that you are upset about your visa rejection. But when you generalize the things, you must be careful. There is definitely a percentage of people applying for visa without genuineness. As a citizen and servant of USA, VO s have certain regulations. And take it from me they are damn serious about their rules and policies. They are not supposed to mention the reason for refusal. I just have one thing to say, if most of us would hav had genuine visa application stating ‘we are not potential immigrants’ you should not see so many Indians working here after graduation. Its all about money and standard of living with very few cases of genuine research interest. Or else why would software engineers earning decent wages in India cover such a distance to do a ‘non thesis’ graduation work here?

          As far as your comment ,”the previous officers and he also think that I will not finish up my school.”, many a time its true. The course work and research here is really heavy and needs a lot of determination unlike in India, where its upto you at individual level. Most of the students drop out (though the percentage is less with Indians) is not negligible. VOs are trained as HSB says. They know what they are doing, they will be having all the information they need to make a decision about you within a minute. The interview according to me is just the way to test your confidence and communication skills nothing else as they are the only factors that they can not gauge with a written information. Just motivate yourself and walk with time.

          • If there is a possibility of potential immigration, US government should strengthen their rules on changing visa status after F1. There can be a rule that says, “you MUST go back, no matter what”. As someone rightly said, it is the failure of the VO if a person who is passed on as “genuine” by him/her eventually migrates to US. That’s what’s happening with scores of people. If you ask my personal account, none of my friends who went to America to study have returned after their MS. And many more who are doing MS right now do not intend to return either. All of them established to the “satisfaction of the VO” that they would return after their studies at the visa interview. So, it’s not fair to say that the VO’s decision can be final and can go unquestioned. Unfortunately, the main problem is that there is no legal forum where this can be agitated. If someone is bent on migrating, he/she will. If not US, some place else. Americans weren’t native to US either. They migrated from Europe. Today’s global culture causes people to think globally and seek out avenues where they can get maximum exposure. That’s one main reason I wanted to study abroad. I admit it was a mistake to apply only in US. But I realized the mistake only after three consecutive rejections. Recent news showed plenty of Americans coming to India these days to work in corporate companies like Infosys since living expenses in India are lower. Now isn’t that migration? How about creating visa interviews for Indian visas? We will have our VOs sit and interview them and deny their visas like they do ours. ;)

        • I agree with Gurjeet, even genuine students are denied to get F1 visa because of some fraud students so it portray they(VO) are not trained enough, coz they make decisions which are not 100% correct.

          Secondly, If they have a problem with potential immigration then why the hell they grant 5 years visa for a course of 2-3 years of MS. They are the only persons responsible for making their country a land of immigrants, just grant the visa for 2 years a student have to come back to his home country after his studies no second option will be there.

          There should be specific reasons for visa rejection, this is truly unacceptable that a student waste his time and money and in the end not able to move forward towards his goal just because of unpredictable visa interview, there should be some specific reasons.

          Mr HSB if fraud admissions are reasons for visa rejections, then in VI why they dont even bother to check Bank statments, transcripts……etc……..in many of the cases and why they make a decision in just 5 minutes, they should take their own time say 15-30 days and evaluate all the docs of every applicant (if they have a doubt) and then grant the visa.

          Also you said that they are trained in the same way as we are trained as engineers, so i want to make 1 point very clear that you cannot compare both the things coz as an engineer we never make blind decisions in just few minutes on a certain set of rules. Also for every decision engineers make they have a strong base for it and they can give every possible explanation to anyone who can challenge their decision unlike these VO’s who just say we cant grant you visa under section 214b and no further reason.

          I think the following things affect the visa decision
          1. confidence
          2. body language
          3.university
          4.Luck

          And i believe that the above points are not enough to judge whether a student is genuine or not and their decision put a great impact on a persons mental and financial status.

          The same I believe that US is not the only country, UK,AUS,GERMANY,CANADA these countries also provide quality education, so guys dont be shattered its not the end of life. When one door close two get open

      • HSB Sir, my point here is: You mean to say that visa officers are trained and are correct, i agree with you.
        Most of us are rejected and are given the reason as potential immigrant.
        So if the visa oficers are trained so well and the ones who get visa are non potential immigrants …then why these students who get visa settle in us and apply for h1 visas later on instead of coming back to india and searching a job here…. 8 out of 10 settle in us and dont come back to india(a well known fact).
        So this result shows that they are failures. I am sorry to say but 80 % visa officers are wrong because its difficult to judge a person in few minutes no matter how well trained you are…..you cant challenge the fact that our make is God and every model is different with different intentions and you are too admant to admit that. 1ce u admit the fact then its not difficult to move on.
        as an engineer i am doing well and working with one of the leading mnc from usa only. i am just neutral… i was happy with my rejection to purdue university… because i got a chance to prove myself here unlike most indians like my frd who has written this post who are dying to go to usa…. usa has one of the best education systems and research but most of the brains are from china and india !!!!!

        • 8 out of 10 settle down is not correct unless you can show some data from USCIS. There are about 700,000 foreign students in USA. Do you know how many H1B visa is available per year?

          • I might not be as sharp and as enlightened as u are with the data. i was not talking about the foreign students i was talking abt Indians specificaly and just like the visa officers u take decissions too soon i guess. Why cant u accept the fact they are not always correct. why is it so difficult for u i dont understand
            Wheni understand i was not entitled for the visa as i was somewhere wrong.

          • 8 out of 10 settle down ratio was in olden days, before 2001 people on student visa after MS used to get jobs, H-1b and green card with ease. if you look at students who went there after 2007 when recession started, you will see the true picture that how many students manage to find good job and settle down. Just extending stay with OPT, CPT, double masters, Ph.D., Post Doc doesnt mean settling down in USA.

        • Brains are from india and china….but competition is too high…opportunities should be plenty even for avg brains who have limitations….Proper Training can enlighten them….so the same story and aspirations to USA.

          • It is not only about brains, but cheap labor also. Today it might be India and China. Tomorrow it might be SA or some other country. But the point US VO is making is that once they approve u can be in US even though u got poor marks, poor GRE/TOEFL score or u put some fake documents. Let them make their systems so strong that it is not abused. When they know Indians or anyone who is abusing the system, then let US make their system better and have the loopholes closed. This way at least people will not try to cheat. Only one with merit would come to US.

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