Lets Talk About Higher Education in Australia, Europe and Canada

Higher Education Australia
Article by Ashish Arora.

I have been reading your blog since long and I am pretty amazed with the fact that you have so much time to maintain a blog being an international student yourself, maybe, I am assuming that you are still a student but this is highly appreciable because I being international student in Australia, hardly get time to even update a blog but I certainly do read your blog.

However, coming to the point, there is lot of information very useful on your blog which is undeniably true but I sometimes feel that you get carried away with good part of education system in US.

Why don’t you discuss flip side of it?

I think you have a physiological view about education and it’s impact on an individual’s career, however, you have missed out on a very essential point that a career is not always build upon education and everything is not in books.

For example, if a student A is investing some money in education in US, he or she is also investing that amount of time in pursuing that degree, with the same amount of money and time investing in an organization that same individual can land up with a job in US on the basis of his or her experience in India (Remember US is a free economy and encourages talent not exactly on the basis of education).

Is the time and money well invested?

Also there are many good universities in Australia, Canada, Europe, Asia and other parts of world with countries like Australia doing very good in economy than US.

Perhaps average salary of an IT engineer in Australia is better than in US currently.

Do you know that?

Have you analyzed factors like world economy, average salary of profession you are choosing in the entire world, your own interest in a particular field, impact of your education on your career, demand and supply gap(does US really needs that many people in a particular interested area?).

Also though I think that US still has world class education, not every country can frame policies and rules satisfying both international students and their own citizen.

Countries like UK surely have rules for international student framed to control over bogus universities, control migration, same way in Australia and Canada too rules for international students change every year.

These rules take into considerations lot many factors and those factors are very well discussed and framed by education authorities within government because education is linked with permanent residency, jobs and other things.

Sometimes they conflicts with other policies which may go against citizens living in the country and probably government can fall into trouble themselves.

Do Understand that Education is a business at the end where people doing the business have to make sure that they are getting right profit.

The education policies in a country is devised looking into the factor that a candidate X will invest some money in the country and when he or she is well equipped with right kind of education and skills, he will fill up labor demand supply gap in the country.

It is a win-win situation for a country unless it works exactly how they want.

What if even after educating himself, person X does not lands up with the job? not because he/she was not capable of getting job, maybe that kind of job is not much in demand in the country.

What if they do not land up with RA, TA because universities don’t get right grants for research into that area?

What if research into that area is no longer needed?

Not because again student is not capable but economy of a country does not allows government to put that much of money into research.

There are infinite factors which can put someone into trouble. So generalized views on the basis of your own experiences won’t work for long.

On the flip side, there are universities in Europe where you can pursue PHD for free, perhaps you get enough stipend to survive a good student life.

Also management is a major area where most of people want to pursue their career. However, US comes under most costliest country in terms of management education.

How many people can afford Harvard Business School?

1 year degree in UK is devised looking into time and money consideration which I think US don’t think much about.

Perhaps, with the money I invest in educating myself in HBS, I think I can start up a business in UK, US or Australia.

Do you know that ISB, Hyderabad is ranked among top 20 B-Schools in the world. Though, ISB still charges a very high fees but pretty less as compared to other schools.

Do you know that NUS Singapore though performing pretty well in ranking both for technical and management degrees is highly affordable as compared to universities in US.

Overall you are doing a great job and thumps up to you mate. But don’t get carried away with US education system because sometimes it gives a generalized view.

Good on you mate, Keep up the good work!!!

Answers to Complex Questions

I agree with you on several of  facts you have stated

  • Harvard is Expensive
  • Other countries provide good education for cheap
  • US has negative side with respect to immigration policies
  • Education is Business

Here are the areas that we differ from our opinions.

I have never been to Australia. When I talk to students, first things they say when comparing Australia to US is racism.

With Australia suffering a recent drop in international student numbers because of factors like a stronger currency and a number of violent attacks on Indian students in 2009, it could be an opportune time for New Zealand. Source.

I have friends living in Australia.

30 Days back my close friend visited Australia. He completed MS in USA and have been working in USA for over 7 years now.

He said, I didn’t see or experience anything similar to what was reported in newspapers. Maybe some students were at wrong place at wrong time. But, people are not as friendlier as in USA. There was certain amount of friction that I could feel.

Maybe you share your experience about living and studying in Australia here in this blog.

 

Harvard Business School

Perhaps, with the money I invest in educating myself in HBS, I think I can start up a business in UK, US or Australia.

I will be first person to appreciate and congratulate you if you start a business and want to change the world with your ideas and products.

I stated in one of my previous post –  People don’t go to Harvard just because they can afford, people go there because of value it offers.

Even if you start a business, the value it will add when you have Harvard MBA in your business card will be tremendous.

It basically reduces your degrees of separation by few factors.

Also, when people talk about Harvard and say its expensive, I always think, they just haven’t realized the value of degree from prestigious schools.

People go to Harvard, because they want to be leaders, not followers.

Value of Education shouldn’t be judged by how much money that you have to spend to get educated.

But, how much money  that you will make throughout your life and its impact on your career.

I meet someone who Graduated MBA from Duke (Ranked #5). He spent close to $120,000.

He is from Chennai, MS in Biomedical Engineering  (Ok School).

He laughed about money he spent for Duke, because  he paid off the loan in 3 years. You can do the Math. Paying 120,000 in 3 years with other family expenses proves that he could be making close to $150,000 to $200,00 per year  + signing bonus. (Highest Paid MBA Graduate in 2011)

Why Other Countries

When students ask why not Singapore, Australia or UK, I always ask the following question to them.

Where do you want to work and settle down in your life?

Most of them answer USA.

My reply to them is simple.

If you plan to settle down in USA, then apply for Universities in USA.

Where to Study – USA, UK or Germany?

You stated USA is Free Economy, One can come to USA even after working in India for few years.

I agree to that.

Out of several lakhs of Engineers who graduate, how many get a chances to come to USA?

You are at mercy of the company that send you to USA. You don’t have control on what projects you get assigned to you or choice of programming language.

You might be interested to work in Java, but they will ask you to work in COBOL.

Then company will ask you to sign contract, so you can’t quit the job  right after coming to USA. Then you have to be in USA from April to October, then you have to find a consultant who can apply for your H1B. Learn about H1B Visa Process.

So, its not as easy as you think to settle down in USA.  If you want to plan your future to live and work in USA, then coming to USA as student would be easier and least resistance path.

Above all, you get world class education.

People with Masters Degree or above is likely going to earn more than person with just Bachelors. degree.

Those holding bachelor’s degrees earn about $2.27 million over their lifetime, while those with master’s, doctoral, and professional degrees earn $2.67 million, $3.25 million, and $3.65 million, respectively.

That said, the major and industry a student selects ultimately have an enormous impact on lifetime earnings. Those with bachelor’s degrees who work either in management or science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) earn more, on average, than people with advanced degrees of any level who work in fields like education, sales, and community service. Source  – College Payoff Report by Georgetown University.

For 2 years of additional effect, your impact throughout your life is like o.4 Million Dollars.

Free Education in Europe

Yes, you can study for free in Europe.

You have to think about “liveability factor“.

  • Do you have any Indian Community nearby?
  • Do you have place to buy Indian Groceries nearby?

My friend/relative  is doing PhD in Austria. They have to drive 1.5 hours one way to the nearby Indian  Grocery Store.

Place where I live in USA, within 5 minutes drive, I have 4 Indian Grocery Store and over 10 Indian Restaurants with very good network of Indian community and friends.

I’m not sure about others, I prefer to live where there is good Indian community around.

Even with good number of Indian students, few find it tough to live in USA.

If you happen to be someone who never stayed outside your parents hone, then find a place study where there is good Indian Community. If you pick a place in Europe with  few Indian Students studying there, then life will be really tough. Trust Me.

We looked at  student who got admission in USA, UK and Germany and looks like he decided to study in Germany.

I don’t have expertise in Germany, but looking at interest level of students, I should start looking into other countries too.

I might have missed couple of your questions, but country of your choice depends on your future plans.

If you go to one country and you don’t like it, then there is always an option to start over. It takes time and effort to make the switch.

Education and Career

I think you have a physiological view about education and it’s impact on an individual’s career, however, you have missed out on a very essential point that a career is not always build upon education and everything is not in books.

You have got it 100% right.

Unfortunately, courses are not designed to teach life skills, but only things that are required for student to get a job. I didn’t learn to blog as a coursework while studying Masters.

If a student doing Engineering in India, says that I’m going to be a professional blogger, his parents is going to think he’s going nuts and do everything in their power to make him find a job in software company.

Refer to the video posted in Faebook yesterday – State of Software Engineers in Chennai, India.

Summary

  • Make an informed decision about the country you want to study.
  • If decision is wrong, then have courage to make the switch.
  • Decide on the country based on your long term plan.
  • Canada, Australia have easier Immigration policy.
  • UK eliminated Post Study Work Visa
  • Germany is making it easy for High Skilled Workers
  • I just prefer USA right now.

Your Comments?

Which country do you prefer and why?

55 Comments

  1. ashwin on November 25, 2014 at 1:31 AM

    Hey there ,i am planing to do my master’s in electrical engg in aus for this feb 2015 in take and i want to know about the jobs in this field and i am choosing aus because my uncle stays in aus, and mostly end up staying there during masters(will spent less money on college).so when compared to us is it good to do masters in aus (keeping in mind jobs and course which i am doing).And what is the chance of getting an international jobs ?OR i should apply for us?

  2. krishna somayajulu on February 3, 2013 at 2:43 AM

    After reading the entire post,i am very much disappointed becuase no one is expecting knowledge out of education.how could you compare business with education.education enlightens a human being.i am really shocked by observing some figures to calculate the worth of education in terms of money.i agree education should make a living for a person but turning it into profitable business is not correct.if someone is only intrested to earn fame or money out of degress thats not at all correct.many dedicated teachers completely sacrificed their lifes to educate young ones to develop their nation.how can u calculate their efforts in terms of money and how much can u pay for them.

    • Ashish Arora on February 24, 2013 at 5:06 AM

      Krishna – I respect your views, however, unfortunately not everyone thinks that way.

  3. sree on December 12, 2012 at 10:56 AM

    Hi,
    I would like to do my Ms in abroad, Background: BE CS, 2yrs of work experience in wipro. I want to get a good job over there and earn money. Which country is good for me me? What about Ireland?

    • Ashish Arora on February 24, 2013 at 5:41 AM

      Please check the answer I have replied to Pawan. My answer remains same for you too.

  4. pawan on September 1, 2012 at 6:31 AM

    I am 3rd year b.tech student of civil engineering in NIT. which is the best place to do my masters(us/canada/newzealand/australia/singapore/germany) in terms of overall cos of doing MSt(i cant afford too much) and job opportunities(as i want to do job for earning and saving, say for2-3 years and will finally will land up in india.)

    • Ashish Arora on September 7, 2012 at 11:28 AM

      Pawan we can’t decide for you where you would like to educate yourself, you have to figure out what factor you desire out of a country, their education system and your personal preferences. There has been lot of heated discussion in this blog on education in Canada, Australia, Singapore, Europe etc. Please use search engine of this website to find post on UK, Canada, Australia, Germany, Singapore and read them. Do a good research and reach to a well informed decision.

  5. pawan on September 1, 2012 at 6:27 AM

    I am 3rd year b.tech student of civil engineering in NIT. which is the best place to do my masters(us/canada/newzealand/australia/singapore/germany) in terms of overall cos of doing MSt(i cant afford too much) and job opportunities(as i want to do job for earning and saving, say for2-3 years and will finally return to india)

  6. Ji Young on August 9, 2012 at 2:53 AM

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  7. swetha on May 6, 2012 at 1:09 PM

    can any one tell me which country is best for pursuing M.S in pharmacy…
    n pls tell me is it beter to pursue M.S IN ABROAD OR PHD IN abroad, which is beter…

  8. santhosh on May 2, 2012 at 1:57 PM

    hi everyone,
    i applied to mba nyit vancogver.i have a funds of 10 lakhs from mydad and rest of all i have to get by loan.my dream is to settle in u.s.many people told me that if we get p.r of canada.we can easily migrate to u.s.is it true? nyit vancover is offering its course one year in vancover and second year in u.s.. so if i transfer like this how many years of u.s visa will i get and am i eligible for 3 years work permit in canada.as they are asking 2 years of education in canada for three years work permit..reply soon

  9. madhukar_vi on April 27, 2012 at 1:43 AM

    at present my daughter is doing MSc in BioMedicalScience from Nottingham Trent University in UK. How are the chances of her getting good job or research work or getting to do PHd by sponsorhip.

  10. LYDIA on April 26, 2012 at 6:42 PM

    i am studying in france for my mba, but i regret why i made the decision, to come here, i have wasted my time and money,am planing to to australia for another second MBA; my aim is to work; while i study , my question is can i get a good job in western australia; under administrative works?

    • Ashish Arora on May 3, 2012 at 9:16 AM

      HI Lydia,

      It is a good idea to pursue education in Western Australia because immigration is giving you like 5 points extra for PR, if you pursue education in Western Australia like Perth but there are many factors like Climate, Advancement and population that has be considered there. Please go to websites like http://www.seek.com.au for looking out opportunities in Perth. I think you can get good opportunities there. Get in touch with local IDP centers for more info!!!

      Regards,

      Ashish

  11. Karan on April 25, 2012 at 7:10 AM

    hello friends..
    I am 2011 B.Tech graduate with 81% marks.
    I am planning for a masters from Canada.
    I am confused between a Masters in networking technology and a masters in engineering management.
    I have an experience of around 12 months in networking industry.
    I am afraid that my experience is much less for a management degree.
    Job prospects after the completion of these courses are also a major concern.

    Please reply,

    • Ashish Arora on April 26, 2012 at 5:23 AM

      Dear Karan,

      “I am confused between a Masters in networking technology and a masters in engineering management.”…What makes you confuse ? Why you are confused in only these two specific field? Mate! my experience says that choose that field where you interest lies because that will motivate you all through out your career to perform better and excel in work or maybe take up research. Don’t think in the money point of view, like, you want to choose engineering management because it will fetch you high paying management job. If you are good at something, money will come to you but you also have to consider right university and job scene a bit.

      I cannot give you exact advise because I don’t know your exact situation but you are better off choosing networking technology because you have prior experience of 1 year in networking technologies. I cannot advise you on Canada but I know that Syracuse University in NY does have really good courses on Networking and also good research goes in the university. It is bit expensive so you have to try for scholarship.

      Best of Luck!!!

      Regards,

      Ashish

      • Karan on May 2, 2012 at 1:36 PM

        Hey Ashish,

        Thanks a lot for your reply.
        I am now firm on my decision to go for a Masters in Internetworking Technology.
        The university that I am targeting is the University of Alberta for their MINT program.
        Here is the link: http://mint.ece.ualberta.ca/
        Looking forward to ur reviews/suggestions.

        The tution fee is CND 23500 and hostel fee is around $700 per month.

        Can you give me an idea of my living expenses other than the hostel charges. It includes heating charges as well.

        And will i be able to cover up my living expenses thru part times..?

        • Ashish Arora on May 3, 2012 at 9:06 AM

          If you are keen in settling down in Canada, it is good ranking university in Canada(Ranked #4). World ranking is around 127(Times world ranking) so not that great as compared to other universities in the world.

          http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2011-2012/top-400.html

          living expenses other than the hostel charges – Phone bills, weekly groceries and other stuff, Electricity + internet + water bills. Intially, you might have to spend more. Get in touch with any person studying in that university for more appropriate advice as it’s in Canada so you need someone living there.

          Make sure you do all arrangements in prior like buy enough clothes, books, shoes etc to go till 2 years, make good decisions because student life is tough and expenses are unbearable.

          Regards,

          Ashish

  12. Zahid on April 25, 2012 at 6:38 AM

    Could you please write something about study, life and settlement in Canada ??

  13. Ashish Arora on April 25, 2012 at 3:52 AM

    Thanks for the inputs Vish. I didn’t know about those points. Quite appreciated!!!…I feel people should have holistic approach before choosing any destination and education system for studies and this could only be possible with inputs like this. We are optimally using internet for good of other.

  14. tushar bhatia on April 24, 2012 at 5:24 PM

    @HSB
    I’m getting admission in Melbourne University which is apparently ranked 31 in the world, I’m opting to do my masters in engineering management and my sole aim to study abroad is to work there and save a large some of money and then eventually come back to India. Is this university a wise choice?
    I’m currently doing my B.tech and I’ll finish with it in June.
    The course is for 1.5yrs and is worth 17lakh INR, after which I have a grace period of 3months in which I have to get a job failing which I don’t get an extension on my visa.
    currently I have a job offer at hand, I’m placed in HCL Technologies.

    • Ashish Arora on April 25, 2012 at 8:03 AM

      University if perfectly fine and location is also good, chances of your getting job is more in Melbourne but take care of these things:

      1. Did you research about what kinds jobs you can get after completion of the course, did you go to immigration website and checked if those kind of profession are in MODL list?
      2. Try changing your course from 1.5 to 2 years because that is a pre-requisite for applying for PR and without PR, you won’t land up with any job here. If you complete 2 years of education atleast you will get TR which according to current rules allow you to stay for 3 years and look out for jobs.
      3. HCL Technologies is a good place to work but depends what kinda profile you will be getting in HCL and will be beneficial for you in future or not.

      For more info, go to local IDP center for free advise, they are payed by oz government to promote international education.

      Regards,

      Ashish

      • Hari Hara Sudhan on May 2, 2012 at 12:46 PM

        Hey Tushar Bhatia, Even I am heading to University of Melbourne. Good to see you here. Take up a two year program to get the advantage of PSW. I have friends @Uni Melb. there are campus placements during which they ask for PR or PSW. So if you have any one of these you are sure of getting a job. What Ashish Arora said was perfectly right.

  15. Ashish Arora on April 24, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    Hey Kirsten,

    You may be right in that sense but mostly when we talk about ranking, it is decided on the basis of many factors(infrastructure, quality of education, avg age of students, avg GRE score of admit student and many others) and most of the website like usnews, educationtimes etc take all these factors and evaluate rankings. so you have to see, it is not always necessary that a high ranking university may be appropriate for you. So rankings are just a counter, I believe more in self research and conclusion to give yourself right direction. For example, ANU is has done one of the pioneer research in solar systems and climatic control. So if anyone does his master from ANU into those areas, he will surely get some real knowledge.

    Also I can very well understand that you both people are again looking into a direction where a student is solely seeking knowledge but I can see many people in this forum not looking exactly into knowledge but other factors like money, development, lifestyle, emotional attachment with parents, racism, job security etc. So again it is not a bad idea to look out for avenues that may sort out your problems and simultaneously be a best option for you. Just a food for thought for all those people in the forum and not a statement for argument.

    Lastly, Let us take example of a MBA Aspirant who aims for an MBA course. He looks ranking of all B-Schools and makes a Plan, now he wants to get into atleast top 50 ranking B-School, however, he does not have enough money. That is a very genuine problem. Now he looks out for loan and a nationalized bank can only give him 20 lakhs($40,000 approx) loan and he can arrange some money from here and there and some from his own personal saving. Ofcourse he will look at all the options. Now my analysis:

    I will choose National University of Singapore because
    World Ranking – 23rd globally
    Tution Fees – SGD 52,000(22 lakhs) pretty good as compared to US B-Schools.
    Distance of Singapore from India – 2 hrs flight.
    Immigration system – you have a PR system so chances of you settle down is more than US.
    Job scene – Not bad perhaps good.
    Economy – doing really good currently
    Maid Hiring – I have heard people hiring maid in singapore for household stuff. They work on yearly contract.

    Just because singapore is very near to India and it just take 2 hrs from any one of us to travel, it can resolve many of those problems which people stated about medical system, parents etc. A similar analysis can be done about NTU.

    • vish on April 24, 2012 at 12:54 PM

      I totally disagree with Singapore. If you had said this 2 years back, I would have given this a standing ovation.

      As of today, Indians are totally UNWELCOMED in Singapore. Since 2010 the things have changed dramatically in Singapore. If you were to go check on any Singapore forums, you will know that its much much more tougher to settle in Singapore now.

      In the US, if you have a job and a degree, you can be sure that you will get a visa. In Singapore, the chances of getting a visa (EP) is pretty minimal for Indians now. It’s getting pretty common for people who got EPs earlier to get declined at the time of renewal in Singapore.

      The same story goes for PR. You can apply for a PR after 2-3 years of working in sg but the chances of a PR approval for a Indian is very low now. Even PR renewals are rejected in bulk.

      Look at the stats and you will see more than 70% PR applications in Singapore are rejected (after 2009, before 2009, it was a kids play to get Singapore PR)

  16. lucifer on April 24, 2012 at 8:59 AM

    can i do mba outside india with a budget of 6lakh

    • Ashish Arora on April 24, 2012 at 11:07 AM

      Don’t know maybe Bangladesh, Nepal or Srilanka :p

    • Anonymous on April 25, 2012 at 3:30 AM

      not without scholarship

    • munna on April 25, 2012 at 9:40 AM

      Beleive it or not, you can do it in USA. Try West Texas A & M University, Canyon, Texas. every student there is given in-state tuition scholarship and your 4 semester fees should be not more then 12000 dollars-thats about 6 lakh rupees. living, food costs you can manage by working on campus there.

  17. priyanka on April 23, 2012 at 11:58 PM

    hiee…can any1 plz help me….i have done my bachelors from civil engineering and 2011 passed out,i m currently working for a s/w company and want to settle my lyf in this field,so i want pursue masters in canada by having one year of exp,can this help me in gtng an oppourtunity to study in top univ in canada,i have TOEFL with 97…is ielts mandatory to get visa for canada???

    • Luther on April 24, 2012 at 5:52 AM

      TOEFL is accepted worldwide , I don’t think u need IELTS for Canada visa(not 100% sure though).
      Since u have done bachelors in civil ,u will have to take up some pre requisite courses for masters in computer science.
      If you want to pursue masters only for knowledge/career sake, I would suggest USA over Canada

  18. Navjot on April 23, 2012 at 9:29 PM

    Well I think right now Canada is the best country to get education as its economy is booming , no racism at all and U can get permanent residency in 2 years.

  19. Navjot on April 23, 2012 at 9:25 PM

    Well I think right now Canada is the best option for education because its economy is booming , no racism at all and u can get permanent residency in 2 years…….

    • venkat on April 23, 2012 at 11:32 PM

      Well !!! There are other factors you should look like cold factor, as it s much close to north the temp will in minus degrees, but there are few places where it s normal.. Next thing is the cost of living is a bit high I mean the tax deductions from pay…. The education in canada is worth full…As we get the PR in three years and it’s easy to migrate to usa…

      http://www.happyschoolsblog.com/category/canada-higher-education/

  20. PRANEET on April 23, 2012 at 1:49 PM

    There is one statement here which strikes the chord with me & the exact situation I am in. “If you go to one country and you don’t like it, then there is always an option to start over. It takes time and effort to make the switch.”

    I came to France a year and 2 months ago , and everything that I did over that period , one can label it “stupid”. The college , the course etc etc. Now I regret that decision coming here. If only I chose a better university.
    Well , now I have planned everything for making a switch. And now i narrowed down my choices of universities & countries to the U.S & Germany.
    And hopefully i can leave behind my France nightmare.

    • munna on April 25, 2012 at 9:42 AM

      why france became nightmare? is it because of language problem or university not recognised?

  21. Kirsten on April 23, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    I can’t agree less with you, HSB. Besides Harvard, the value of schooling in an accredited Univ in USA is worth more than the value of several univs that rank first 200 or less in the world. In other words, the value of a school in USA that ranks 200+ is more than that that ranks 100+ in other countries of the world. I have seen people who left schools ranked first 100 in the world from other countries to come to schools farther down the ladder and these students will always tell you that the standard is higher in USA school compared to their former school that presumably ranked higher.

  22. srikanth on April 23, 2012 at 12:32 PM

    Excellent……thnx to hsb…

  23. DEV on April 23, 2012 at 12:31 PM

    Hi,can anyone help?? I learned from an overseas education agent that average(she said bare minimum) expense for an MS in US will be 35,00,000(lacs) INR (including living cost). Is it really so?? Actually from the college websites I am getting an estimate of around 25-26 lacs. I am confused. PLZ HELP.

    • susmitha on April 23, 2012 at 3:35 PM

      hii the expesnes will be around 35laks the university estimate is always less

    • venkat on April 23, 2012 at 11:40 PM

      It depends upon the univ u are choosing and also cost of living in that place ….. I don’t think 35 L is a min amount for doing masters …..If u can say the details of the univ’s then there is a way to know the amount req 🙂

  24. Luther on April 23, 2012 at 12:28 PM

    Let me add something related to Australia and US .
    One of my relative applied for Masters in computer science/IT in Australia.
    Background: Done BSC computer science , works for government organization in India.
    Got admit in two universities in Melbourne and Adelaide with yearly fee of 10 lakh Indian rupees and guess what ?? the only requirement was IELTS !! probably SOP n other stuff

    I applied for MS in USA
    Background : Done BE in CS , Working in Wipro for 2 years
    Got admit in UT Arlington and Illinois Inst Tech Chicago . Opting for UT Arlington with tuition fees of 7.5 lakh rupees per year.
    Requirement : GRE , TOEFL , SOP , LOR and tough selection process

    One could clearly tell that getting admit in Australia is very easy, and pay up the same fess as USA or even more!!
    But then , my relative has other advantages .
    1. Spouse gets work permit
    2. PR and citizenship in 3-5 years in Australia.

    Hence each person has their own priorities .
    The reason I choose USA is because its obviously #1 in terms of technology , at least in the field of IT .
    My relative choose Australia because they want to migrate there with the family and enjoy the benefits of becoming a citizen in 5 years!!

    • HSB on April 23, 2012 at 12:34 PM

      Good thoughts.

      • Luther on April 23, 2012 at 2:00 PM

        Thanks HSB ,
        Just one query , is my decision of choosing UTA over IIT wise? for computer Science?
        I have made a thorough research on both universities and taken several people’s opinion and then decided on UTA.
        But your opinion really MATTERS 🙂

        • HSB on April 23, 2012 at 2:17 PM

          Can you share your research results?

          • Luther on April 24, 2012 at 12:23 AM

            Yeah sure,

            1. I am currently working the Telecom domain/Networks and I when I checked the faculty in both the universities , the number of professors working in this field are more in UTA than IIT
            2. While I mailed professors in both the universites , I received reply from 2 professors and both are from UTA .
            3. The tuition fee in UTA is less compared to IIT ,i did not receive financial aid from both .
            Both have CPT and courses offered are similar and I have chosen non – thesis.
            4. The cost of living in Arlington is very cheap compared to Chicago ( I have friends studying in both universities , hence I got the info)
            5. On the brighter side , Campus jobs are plenty in IIT than UTA.
            6. IIT is located in a BIG city , very good connectivity and public transportation
            Arlington does not have public transportation(Arlington is the largest city in the US without public transportation- from wikipedia) and makes commuting difficult.
            7. Chicago might have better job oppourtunites than Arlington , but then Arlington is located right in the middle of the Dallas-Forth Worth metroplex.
            8. One might miss big city life in Arlington , but Dallas is just 30 minutes drive from UTA ( Provided one has means of transportation)
            9. Lot of indians in both the universities
            10. Have not concentrated much on the climate factor.

            Will add more once I get more info



          • Luther on April 25, 2012 at 11:21 PM

            @HSB:
            I have shared my research results ,could you please reply to my query . It will be very helpful

            Thanks



          • Luther on May 16, 2012 at 2:34 AM

            Hi HSB ,

            Could you please comment on my query.
            I have shared my research experience long back.

            Thanks



    • Ashish Arora on April 24, 2012 at 11:14 AM

      Absolutely correct!!! no arguments…

  25. Vandit on April 23, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    Loved this one….keep up the good work….one request to HSB : Please write about master’s in engineering and jobs in Germany if possible…thanks.

  26. Harsha on April 23, 2012 at 11:49 AM

    dear HSB, I agree with your words that US is the best country for education…. But Look in a student perspiration that he would like to do a masters and tried applying for US and got failed during VISA process or got very less score in GRE…….Still then his main aim will be to do a masters in abroad. So to conclude UK, Australia ,Canada r the country’s for this type of students……
    of course they get good jobs and exposure in UK, Australia ,Canada If they work hard…
    Wherever(UK, Australia ,Canada) u go study well be the top 5 in class jobs will follow u…. .

    • HSB on April 23, 2012 at 11:56 AM

      Several students have USA as their first choice. If visa is rejected, they will try for other countries. Few students will apply for 2 to 3 countries at the same time.

  27. venkat on April 23, 2012 at 10:19 AM

    @Ashish Arora , @HSB Goood one !!!

  28. Sri on April 23, 2012 at 9:49 AM

    Good article…
    To HSB : It is nice if you write more posts about education in other countries especially Canada…

  29. jsj on April 23, 2012 at 9:11 AM

    excellent post and amazing answer,.,. keep it up hsb..

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